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Madeleine

This is a big topic in my house, too, with a similar split. I started school in Leafy New England University City (I think) and my mom, as a single parent with a minimally supportive ex-husband, was staring at the "private school or nicer town" problem. She managed to buy a house in the town just north and I am a public school girl. Meanwhile, my husband's mom, as a single parent with no financial help from outside, took out loans to put him through private schools. So naturally he thinks private is better.

So far Snuggly Girl is in public school, but we went for a magnet school despite paying for a house around the block from one of the best public schools in the city. (We toy with moving to the cheapest neighboorhood served by the magnet school, but moving is such a horrendous experience so we'll never do it.) My Love still scans the lists of private schools every time they come up, and we both hope that she'll get into the geeky university lab school for middle/high school.

The worst part for me is that he thinks it is entirely my job (he being much too busy trying to get tenure so we don't have to move again) to advocate and work the system to make sure SG gets the best out of public school. We aren't thrilled with her 1st grade teacher (less than a week in) and he thinks I should have been in nagging to the principal last spring. Maybe I should have. I believed the newsletter that said you couldn't.

Someone commented in one of the posts you linked to that they didn't mind being known as a domineering mom in the school office. I may have to pretend I feel that way, too.

SheilaC

Fascinating. Where we live (small city in Canada), we don't have nearly so many options, or so much racial diversity. We also don't have that kind of statistics available to compare schools. Our options were the neighbourhood public or Catholic school, or bus the kids to a French immersion, or to a private Christian school. Happily our neighbourhood school is only 6 years old, well equipped, and the staff are very enthusiastic, innovative and welcoming of parental involvement. So we are happy to be sending our kids to the neighbourhood school.

However it is a relatively well-to-do, homogenous middle class area, and I wish there were more diversity of backgrounds, for the reasons you cite.

Still, my husband and I are elitist enough that if we saw statistics on schools and teachers similar to yours, we would definitely make the same choice. Much lower teacher ratio, greater teacher training and experience, and apparently higher student achievement would be very important to us.

I hope your kids are happy, and you are happy with your decision, and that this school will continue to be a wonderful place for your children to grow and learn.

Jennifer

Very insightful about the choices available to you. Our choices were less, like SheilaC, but I suspect we would split in similar ways.

isabel

Don't feel bad about your decision. You can make other choices about who you socialise with, go to church with and where you send your kids to after school activities. You have to compromise on some things but not on everything.

AmericanFamily

We made similar choices when we bought our house. We made some compromises on racial and socioeconomic diversity in exchange for a really good school district and walkable neighborhood. Even with those compromises, we figure the public suburban school is still MUCH MUCH more diverse than the private schools here. Sending M to the really bad city schools was simply not something we were ever willing to consider.

We won't know if we made the right choice until M starts in another 2 years. If we don't like the school here, we will probably move to a wealthier suburb with slightly better schools and more Asian kids.

Sarah

I remember this angst acutely--it all played out while I was pregnant with my oldest, now 5. We moved back to our hometown to be near my mom. And we were public school kids all the way. And our fair city's suburbs are relentlessly white--I think the percent non-white for the suburbs is at <4%. If we left the city, it wasn't just less racial and ethnic diversity, it was no ethnic and racial diversity. The city has a public Montessori program. It is a lottery and most of my worries centered on whether we would get in and whether it would really work all the way to 8th grade. There has been a shift to divest the city of middle schools.

My daughter is now in her third year--she started in K3 and is now in K5. I think the experience has been great for us, but a funny thing happened. My husband got a new job last year not in downtown as we expected, but in a far exurb. New angst. And all the choices feel odd to this city girl. We have found a suburb we like and the schools are good by test sores and reputation. But the stats on diversity are very different than our current school choice:
White 97%, Asian/Pacific Islander 2%, Black 1%, Hispanic <1%

And only 3% of kids qualify for the free or reduced lunch.

Compared, my daughters current school is:
Black 60%, White 28%, Asian/Pacific Islander 6%, Hispanic 4%, American Indian/Alaskan Native 2%

And 60% free/reduced lunch.

We'll reduce my husband's commute considerable, allowing him to see the kids more often and maybe even get to school sometimes. And we are choosing a middle ground that let's us head back to the city fairly regularly. What a crazy world. It has made me feel better that other people think about this too. I felt alone in my angst even after my daughter started school. I was shocked at how many of my daughter's classmates parents didn't seem to put effort into tours or back-up plans.

Kristen

We moved two years ago, and we chose a house in the public school area with a 60% free/reduced lunch population.

But, because of the high level of poverty at the school - there is a state-mandated 15:1 maximum student/teacher ratio for grades K-3.

That makes all the difference in the world.

I thought all states had class-size caps for poorer schools, but as I read more, I realize that is not the case. It's certainly a good way to attract families of all backgrounds to the school and to ensure a good education for all kids.

Of course, our state's property taxes are sky-high....so there is a trade-off, I suppose.

The one thing that I've noticed about our school is the teachers. The kind of teacher who chooses to stay at a school where most of the kids are disadvantaged....well, that is exactly the kind of teacher I'd like for my kids. There is just a little "something extra" I've noticed about our teachers. It's hard to quantify in test scores or academics or even in words.

I'm sure they are exhausted and overworked and underpaid. But they have a level of care and commitment that before now, I've only seen in Hallmark-afterschool-special teachers.

And yet people still tell us that we are "brave" to try the school.

Amy

Did Calder grow up in Delaware? Me, too. I was sent to private school starting in 5th grade. I live in California now, and my kids will attend the local public school. (They are not school-age yet). Our neighborhood is historically solidly working class, but with the ridiculous housing boom in LA, now has become quite desirable. We moved in 5 years ago; now our home would sell for more than double what we bought it for. Many young families have moved in the last 5 years, and as a result, the school has much improved. And now the neighborhood is unaffordable for anyone but the wealthy. (We certainly couldn't afford to buy our house today).

Anjali

Oh this post is so timely for me, and we have just made the same type of decision for our move to the red clay state.

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